Film Theory: Is Suicide Squad's Joker ACTUALLY Batman's Boy Wonder?

  • Published on: December 1 Jun 2017

  • Special Thanks to VRV for Sponsoring this episode.Get VRV ad-free for 7 days ► you go to or click the link in the description, you can get the VRV Combo Pack, where Loyal Theorists can get a free trial of their first access, ad-free service for 7 days. Test it out, see what you think. I really like their service!With Wonder Woman coming out in theaters this week, I felt it was time to take a look back at some of DC's other movies from the past few years. Specifically, Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad. Back before Suicide Squad and Batman v. Superman hit theaters, there was a theory kicking around that Jared Leto's Joker was secretly Batman's sidekick, Robin. But the Director of Suicide Squad, David Ayer, seemed to dismiss this saying that Jason Todd, former Robin #2 was NOT the Joker. However, the proof we cover today shows that Suicide Squad's Joker can still be Robin...just not the Robin that everyone thought. If you think you've heard this Batman v Superman/Suicide Squad theory before, you ain't seen NOTHING yet! Subscribe for More Awesome Theories! ►► FILM THEORIESDeadpool's SECRET Identity! ►► and Morty + Gravity Falls! ►► WROTE Deadpool! ►►'S SECRET IDENTITY! ►►'s Secret Past! | Kong Skull Island ►'s True CRIME! | Rick and Morty ►►'s DEADLY Disease! ►► the theme song and remix for this episode? Thanks to CARF! MEDIA:Twitter: @MatPatGTFacebook:
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  • Thomas Wise
    Thomas Wise   9 hours ago

    For whatever it’s worth I prefer the arkhamverse. So i have to disagree with Tim Drake being joker. In the Arkham games Tim is robin before and right after joker dies from the titan. But in a cinematic sense this does make some sense

  • Alexandra Aitchison
    Alexandra Aitchison   16 hours ago

    6:11 totally wasn’t fangirling when supergirl is mentioned. cut to me screaming on the inside because that show is literally my lifeline

  • Mister Boogums
    Mister Boogums   16 hours ago

    Jimmy dieing made Super-Man greiving that is why he losed because he’s had nothing to live for

  • Rikhil Singh
    Rikhil Singh   17 hours ago

    Woah Matpat- don’t forget about Carrie Kelley. Possibly the best robin for the best Batman

  • Citizen 23
    Citizen 23   22 hours ago

    Apparently Jason Todd just used his legs... Those things are monsters!

  • It’z Stuff
    It’z Stuff   22 hours ago

    Did Batman use to beat robin? That’s messed up..

  • Kinley Handersen
    Kinley Handersen   1 days ago

    Man I just love your intros MatPat. State of the art.Oh, and no one cares about Jimmy Oleson.

  • Git Gud
    Git Gud   2 days ago

    Rich = Richard, Dick = Dickard. Science.

  • Lisa George
    Lisa George   2 days ago

    🤬🤬🤬I don’t want into town to go also have staff how does this work you got to read

  • Natasha Tapia
    Natasha Tapia   2 days ago

    Jared leto is super cute even when he is creepy lol.

  • Springlift 67
    Springlift 67   2 days ago

    What about teen titans go that’s the exact robin

  • PaulTheoman 13
    PaulTheoman 13   2 days ago

    How would dick Grayson be buried before Bruce parents died that makes no fucking sense

  • Lemonade Demon
    Lemonade Demon   2 days ago

    VRV isn't in England, guess I'm gonna have to miss out on fricking Boruto , tbh you can get official rips of the first season and more on the youtube channel, Bravest Warriors is good af

  • Devin Hinman
    Devin Hinman   2 days ago

    11:38 I'm spichis of him he's holding the camera like the joker in the killing joke

  • Noire
    Noire   2 days ago

    So.. joacquin's joker is the real one? Since the movie is about origin of joker... if there are 2 joker then this calls for twinsanity!!! Real joker meet Robin joker~ Btw jared leto's joker isn't so bad, since joker is an insane guy anything can happened (^-^)

  • mohsen salehi
    mohsen salehi   3 days ago

    Actually, Tim Drake is the Red Robin, not a joker.

  • Drew Hannoush
    Drew Hannoush   3 days ago

    He has to be Dick because Zack said that the dead robin with the suit in the Batcave was Dick Grayson. This could go with your theory saying that in stead of Jason getting beaten to death, it was the original Robin, who in this case was revised by someone, Brian washed by Harline Quinze, and became the joker

  • Frosty Pizza
    Frosty Pizza   3 days ago

    Soooooo did teen titans completely debunk this theory or is that different universe

  • Laura Ess
    Laura Ess   3 days ago

    Shades of the SEQUEL to the graphic novel THE DARK NIGHT RETURNS (a terrible book).

  • j jam
    j jam   3 days ago


  • LoudMouth P
    LoudMouth P   3 days ago

    Mr.j could be for mr jason but whatever

  • Matheus Cavallari
    Matheus Cavallari   4 days ago

    11:48 kkkkkkkk, I wouldn't be mad, I would love actually. But good joke

  • Remmy
    Remmy   4 days ago

    YA BUT- If DICK is supposed to be in Teen Titans(NOT GO NOT CANNON NOT GOOD except for Trigons development....anyways), then why does DICK use a staff in Teen Titans and why does TIM use a staff in THIS Theory?! WHAT IF, hear me out... Dick never died, Joker kidnapped him and Harley Brainwashed Dick? ( this is meer focus on Teen Titans' timeline lining up with everything else.) Robin is confirmed as DickGrayson in Teen Titans, Circus tent, Batman background, etc. Circus can be seen in Haunted, Apprentice he says" I already have a Father" When Slade is like all creepy and goes"I could be like a Father to you.." or something similar. Batman hides the fact that Dick Grayson got kidnapped...Because believe me you know THE Titans by now, would be up in his business, (Starfire particularly. because Babs and Dick make no sense to me Age wise.) Babs at the start is a fifteen-year old-TEENAGER-. and Starfire is around Twenty, I.e same age as DICK. if we pinpoint the age Babs meets Dick, she is only Eighteen or nineteen. Anyways. Dick being seen in the Judas Contract -Justice Leauge VS titans also can be argued with as this is basically retcon of the former series,Teen Titans, making it the correct team. IF We connected the original series too Suicide Squad, we could also argue that SLADE may have brainwashed Dick, maybe Joker broke in,kidnapped him-and then he becomes Joker.Rant aside, why the hell does DICK use a Staff in Teen Titans when Tim uses it everywhere else?!